CCP have already said that some kind of change to local is in the works. Where it's at in the production que, I have no idea.

This one bleats that if highsec were safe Id be out. I LIKE the danger in the game
I also never tank my hulk

I also wouldnt qq to CCP if I ever lost one (which I havent)

My main point is the basis of the sec status as how it was originally set up

Hi-sec = Safest
Lo-sec = less safe
Null sec = Dangerous and lawless
Wormholes = Insanely dangerous.

Any alterations to the system should follow this pattern. But I do agree wars are boring as hell and with the new ability to call in an infinite number of allies to help the defenders will probably become rare.

So in another words you couldn't hack it if Null actually became hard like it was meant to be.

Might I suggest Hello Kitty Online for all you hard nullsec types (that just seem to want low risk isk) it might give you the safe feeling your looking for.

Then its settled. If a risk averse nullbear such as yourself can make it, local is absolutely an unnecesary game retarding protection.

Because all nonconsentual pvp can be avoided by docking up at the sight of another player in system. People could still dock up obviously but they wouldn't have a neon sign and a ringside bell telling them when to do so.

5) You are easily tricked into wasting money on war decing inactive corps.

So your saying war dec fees are too cheap and should be scaled comparing the size of the aggressor to the size of the defender. What would you recommend as a fair price for a 9089 man alliance decing a 4 man corp, besides pathetic of course?

Well besides the insults I have spent alot more time than than in Null but left because it was BORING. I want local removed, Sov changed and Jump drives nerfed because Null is a stagnant sore on EvE.
Oh and as usual for your failed quotes I don't run missions either.

On the war dec we differ and this is probably why you like lord Zim don't seem to understand balance. You would consider a war of 9089 to 4 balanced, I however do not. Null is unbalanced and boring, how many opinions do you need before you see you are only speaking of your own interests.

As to the cost of war decs now you are saying you get too much isk from you tech moons. You keep saying Null should not be made more dangerous then keep giving reasons why it should be.

making systems easier to take and lose, or for stations to be destructible.

As shown Goonswarm want a nice safe null sec.

It is now.

And your ideas to get more players into null and make it more fun are?

That would be perfect test if no local works in normal space ( it works perfectly in w-space )

Learn to read you goon tard

It makes nonconsentual targeted pvp an impossibility. **** the victim. It makes EVE suck. Having a mechanism that completely removes stealth and scouting from the game, suprise attacks and endless other often hyped features isnt balance. Its ******* weak.

We havent established anything other than local removes everything listed in the original post and that goonswarm has slipped up and recruited some seriously carebear players.

Im not going anywhere. Im going to begin a lobby to change EVE into the game it advertises itself as

Sure it is. And no you don't need a replacement. I didnt hear a reason for local needing to stay but assuming you carry the EVE UNI agenda im sure I can figure it out.

Isn't decshield enough protection as is?

If nullsec is so full of carebears like you EVE is an even bigger fraud than I first thought. But we both know you dont represent anyone but yourself.

And you didnt mention plexing until after I replied. Zim you fail.

Static, predictable routes, static predictable un-docks, static predictable pve content, and to a lesser degree, local. Delayed local only works in WH's because there, the PVE content is always dynamic, there are *no* predictable ways in and out, and "gate camp" bookmarks only work while *that* wormhole is alive... Not to mention there are no "tactical bookmarks" no "sniper bookmarks" all the things that come with static travel lanes.

So why haven't you claimed sov in them yet?

Sorry I'm just getting sick to death of people like Shepard Wong Ogeko saying Wormholes are just Null without local.

null sec should be more usable for more people.

I'm not going to allow a cowardly little alt poster to derail the thread into a pissing match. Its no need to. UMad wasnt even the first iteration.

You're a sycophant. You require attention. Negative or positive you just can't stay away. No matter what I say you'll cling to my words and post each and every time. By all means Zim prove me wrong, don't post anymore. Betcha can't!

Create your own thread defending local chat. Let's see the ability for you to do anything other than meander on for the last word.

Let's not imply misleading information here!

There is a lot of differences between wormhole space and regular space. The absence of local, while often pointed out, is hardly the only change.

In many cases it is the only thing that some of us liked about wormhole space. It was the other aspects of that gameplay that were too negative for local's absence to overcome, so I and others like-minded left for regular space again.

That does not follow.

Wormholes have variable points of connection. This makes knowing who is in your wormhole dependent on knowing who could be in it, based on who has access to that external connection.
Long description short: You have less information in the wormhole than in regular space. Even with local to give away all present, this dynamic would destabilize a regular system by exposing it to unpredictable risk.
Local being absent magnifies this element's uncertainty factor, it does not balance it.

Wormholes have limited storage and transfer restrictions. For storage, you have what your ship can carry, and what you can store in a friendly POS. With a POS, you are often forced to trust other players with any and all resources stored there.
With transfer restrictions, you are limited with what you can bring into the wormhole space, as well as what can be exported. Export limits are often a far lesser concern, for obvious reason.
Local being absent does not reduce the impact this has on gameplay, at best.

Wormholes do not have a market. Outside of trades, if you need something, it's up to you to go and get it outside of wormhole space. If you have a backing organization, then they can attempt deliveries.
Local being absent makes travel with cargo more challenging than would be otherwise.

In each of these major points, the absence of local does nothing to mitigate the in game impact of these features. In most of the details, the absence of local makes the aspect more of a challenge than it would otherwise be.

If anything, wormhole space is more challenging for several reasons. The absence of local is far from balancing them for risk, it enhances the level of risk.